tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post7825452619900050486..comments2024-02-25T02:23:45.174+01:00Comments on Infinite Complacency: The Dutch Narconon Debatejjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07221356763434456508noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-47861922816950252952013-07-24T19:57:29.916+02:002013-07-24T19:57:29.916+02:00On the WWP thread, a woman emerged with the userna...On the WWP thread, a woman emerged with the username of Chriystall7. A triggerhappy moderator moved her posts to a derail thread, so I suggested this thread to be able to have an honest debate.<br /><br />I asked her a question on WWP, so I hope she'll be giving a response here. <br /><br />The post I made on WWP is:<br /><br />Chriystall7, as far as people being free to do the program: in myscamofscientologyhttp://scamofscientology.nl/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-79258818426956801672013-07-19T19:14:22.714+02:002013-07-19T19:14:22.714+02:00Thanks for that clarification SoS: I didn't wa...Thanks for that clarification SoS: I didn't want to get to deep into the insurance issue precisely because of the complexities you have just outlined, but I am inclined to agree from what Joanna Kluessien told us -- and from what I could gather from the Dutch press reports -- that it was a case of more cock-up than conspiracy. Of course, if the health inspectorate had been as forthcoming as Jonathan Jacobsenhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-6667834610297046382013-07-19T15:35:41.554+02:002013-07-19T15:35:41.554+02:00Hi Jonny, thanks for another excellent article. It...Hi Jonny, thanks for another excellent article. It may be useful to add a clarification regarding your comment on the insurance fraud. <br /><br /><br /><br />It's probably true that Joanna did not make regular insurance claims with commercial health insurers. However, there is also a collective insurance scheme which is known as Personal Budget (PGB) or by the name of the law (AWBZ or Law scamofscientologyhttp://scamofscientology.nl/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-24320457311142816102013-07-15T20:08:54.296+02:002013-07-15T20:08:54.296+02:00I noticed there was a link that was no longer vali...I noticed there was a link that was no longer valid and I think I stumbled on your Scribd version when looking for another copy. Good to see it back where it belongs at the NYPress site because it is a good piece that deserves to be widely read.Jonathan Jacobsenhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-83009485565842767022013-07-15T17:34:50.328+02:002013-07-15T17:34:50.328+02:00Nice to see the John DeSio exposé on the Purificat...Nice to see the John DeSio exposé on the Purification Rundown cited in this article (reference no. 26). A few years back the NYPress website took that epic piece offline. So I recovered a copy of it from the wayback machine, published it to my Scribd account for educational purposes and fired off a harpoon to the outlet expressing my disappoint and asking for official reprint permission. I CofS Exit Zonehttp://cofsexit.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-39646295222456916012013-07-15T13:59:43.959+02:002013-07-15T13:59:43.959+02:00She didn't provide the actual link and I never...She didn't provide the actual link and I never made time to track it down. But the quote was worth highlighting. I'll have more on Scientology's attitude to epilepsy in a forthcoming post.Jonathan Jacobsenhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-766845421765556183.post-12512093040289283092013-07-15T08:21:48.184+02:002013-07-15T08:21:48.184+02:00That was a good read. It is worth spelling out wha...That was a good read. It is worth spelling out what an individual narCONon programme does and does not do.<br /><br /><br />I do seem to remember that Kluessien stated that the Dutch narCONon website specifically mentions that epilepsy sufferers should continue to take medication (i.e. in addition to stating it in comments on this blog) and that you verified that. <br /><br />It would be Jens TINGLEFFhttp://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/noreply@blogger.com